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Joined: 5th Mar 2014
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25th Mar 2014

Hi guys, just thought i would share a few things i have learnt from friends in Diamond division. 

Firstly if we are going to go with a roster size of 20 which i think we are (correct me if I'm wrong ASH) we need to be putting out and committing 3 squads. this leaves two players unallocated to a squad (could work well if these are americans if we are doing GMT and vice versa from EST) Every member in these allocated squads will need to commit to 90% of the time if we are to stand a chance of winning the war. Each squad will have a leader that will setup the party and choose the game type. 3 squads could work well with one squad allocated to 3 set game modes throughout the war due to there apparently being 9 Nodes, for example demonic enigma seems to prefer TDM so would be in a squad who would be working on TDM, KC and HCTDM for the entire war (for example). 

Communication throughout the war would be done either via whatsapp, Facebook, Skype or Viber. the benefit of Skype is this can be run in the background throughout search and destroy.

I've been told that in diamond division as soon as it turns 11 no more points are awarded so for example you start a game at 10:52 but finish at 11:01 the points will NOT count so timing is key!

Another point is that if you cap a node at the beginning of the war/day and hold it for the duration of the day (7-11) its value will double the next time you hold the node for example you take the node friday night hold it the entire time it will be worth double over the following period. meaning it can be worth letting someone uncap it so you can recap and gain the double cp value again.

These are just a few things i have stumbled across whilst talking to various diamond members. i think it could be a good idea to post on here what game modes you like so the officers can organise squads. as i say this may be completely different to out plans in which case forget everything i have said haha but this is just a  suggestion!

Enjoy reaping your clan wars rewards!!! (if we ever get them!!!!) 
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25th Mar 2014

Yeah, this aligns with what I think we are looking at, but a lot of things I have also read on forums and such is that the lack of real interest is down for Diamond. Basically it is a crap shoot, I think. You could end up assigned to clans who play a lot, or who don't play much at all. I read somewhere that "activity" isn't based so much on during the war as it is the week running up to the war. If this is true and we all play titanfall or do something else the off week of the war we may get in with clans not able to output the activity we can. Basically I think that, in the end, it's not going to matter much. We've a bigger chance of being put with clans we can easily come in 1st - 3rd as we do getting put in a group of 8 where 3 clans play more than we do. I think whether we have 20 or 18 we are looking at putting 8-9 on at any given time with the way peoples schedules work for our people. I feel the last two clan wars showed this. The last one there were many active clans. WE only lost first place because we were against a monster clan who clearly could field twice as many as us at one time. Then this war we were clearly WAY more active than any of the other clans despite them all being our size. There wasn't even really any competition for second or third place. Also at this point there have been enough wars where things went wrong that first place wins were given to multiple places per war and clans just getting lucky in platinum that, combined with a lack of interest and or titanfall, there are a lot of clans who can opt into diamond and not play it very well. The only thing that will change this drop off in numbers is that the next war is also a DLC weekend. This could mean more people playing in general, but it could help the war in that a lot of people will probably be playing the new maps and not the war. It's being released the day before diamond division so we will see. At this point we just need to wait for this war to come around and see what happens and make appropriate changes afterwards! Definitely need to all get on whatsapp or facebook or something, though
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25th Mar 2014

yeah i just feel that without two full strength lobbies we won't be able to compete seeing as theres the set time period. Thats if we are going for a straight up first place, placing in the top three should be a given no matter what.
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25th Mar 2014

Yes, and we would dominate just as we did at the start of this war! I'd love it if we had 3 full lobbies at the same time. Main problem is that when most of our people play regardless of country, is smack between two different options, neither of which are ideal. I would love to see first place wins. I would love to see us on the leaderboards! So stupid they won't add one or two other lobby options. I wonder if Ash can opt into Diamond yet
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25th Mar 2014

http://www.reddit.com/r/CODCla ... division_strategies/

This is what I have been looking for as far as strategy seems to go!

Some things I took away from it. The Federation clan counts as one, so we only need to beat 6 other clans for first place and 3 other clans for third. Not that bad.

Unlocking a node can be just as valuable as holding a node at the end of the night. Denying another clan the bonus points the next day. Never even thought of that, definitely needs to be thrown in the mix.

I think we definitely need party leaders who understand these new tactics during each night and can give direction, which is why Haps and King got promoted. I believe they have the best sense of the general strategy so far!
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26th Mar 2014

Interesting stuff.

From reading this the most important thing I feel is that we think on our feet. Of course we can and should have a plan A for the start, but agree totally on setting up systems to communicate across groups quickly when needed.

Just looking at the timings poll though, we seem to be missing a number of votes from Clan members. Not sure if that's due to people not visiting the forum, or simply they 've voted for nothing as they can't committ? Maybe something we need to keep pluggin gaway at in clan chat for the next few days.


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Joined: 25th Feb 2014
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26th Mar 2014

I'm gonna read the reddit link now Jon, but from what you guys have been saying, it makes a lot of sense to stay strong throughout the whole 4 hours cos once we cap a few nodes it could then be a question of whether to hold them or to work on something else if we are getting overrun. Think the facebook or whatsapp thing is quite important, given that clan chat is crap. I think we should at least hope(if not guarantee) to have 3 lobbies on ( as Jollins mentioned), seeing that we will be having 20-23 members, else we will not be able to get past similar sized clans who could potentially field all their members during the full duration.
Last Edit: 26th Mar 2014 by DaKing1894
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26th Mar 2014

Yeah haps thats a good point. Maybe Ash should message everyone on XBL and find out if they will be committed and let them know that if they aren't committed there will be consequences.
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26th Mar 2014

We will probably be back down to 18-20 for start of war. We do need to make sure everyone is hitting the forum. Communication is going to be the main thing, more important than anything else by far. I don't care if people are active on the forum or even visit it regularly, but everyone needs to start checking it daily the monday before a war to all be on the same page!
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26th Mar 2014

I believe we should just go ahead and say we are going to have to do the UK timeslot for maximum participation, which puts me out almost entirely unless I take the day off (those are my money making days) and puts Ash out for all but the last hour or two. Not sure how this will effect Sandusky on the 360, but I know Kev should be fine with it as he is off friday and saturday but works Sunday, so he should be around for those all important first two days. I had sent Ash a message in chat but haven't gotten a reply yet. Basically that we have two options at this point, depending on how serious everyone wants to be about Diamond. We either keep things as they are and do our best and kick as much ass as possible but be at the mercy of the COD gods as far as who we get matched with or we take this clan to the next level. Get the roster down to just the main guys who play during those hours (I'd say we could get it down to 12 members) and absolutely dominate because everyone participates most of the time. This would mean losing some good members who have been with the clan a long time, including myself. If that is what is decided I would be ok with that and have no hard feelings. I figure if we do the former we win 1 in 2.5 clan wars. The latter we probably win all of them. In the end it is Ash's clan and his decision, but perhaps he should get with you guys (King, Jollins, Haps, etc the guys who can commit to those hours pretty much fully) and you should all decide whether it is worth carrying some of us who can't be here and possibly losing because of inactivity during the diamond wars.
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26th Mar 2014

I'm in this clan to have fun. Winning is good and I'll always go for it, but not at the expense of slashing loads of guys who I enjoy gaming with and have worked hard to get the clan to the position of even trying diamond division.

Cutting inactives is one thing, but personally I'd rather win 1 in 3 than cut that far!
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Last Edit: 26th Mar 2014 by Haps81
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26th Mar 2014

Yeah, I'm not gonna ever say that we need to win at the expense of dropping some really good people and players, and for what? War cry? I'm happy with my ghillie suit! That's not to say we wont get it, but even if we dont win them all, at least we had fun trying!
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Joined: 21st Jan 2014
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26th Mar 2014

Yeah, had a feeling you guys would feel that way. Is why I love playing with you guys so much! Ash has just told me pretty much the same thing. Glad to hear it, but would totally have understood if you all felt differently!
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26th Mar 2014

Diamond Wars will be a challenge for sure and with our time zone mix that isn’t doing us any favours.

But I believe the team we have is good enough to place in the top 3 every war unless we go against those bullshit clans where we wouldn’t stand a chance anyway.

Ox you will not be asked to leave in any way shape or form, you have been here from the start and got us to where we are today.

Everyone on board now is here for a reason and I don’t want to see anybody have to move on just so some of us can enjoy the Warcry gear.

For Bodycount you have to place 1st and we have managed this twice, with a bigger unorganized roster.
Last war we streamlined, strategized and focused and the war was laughable.

If we get down to the 18 as suggested I am sure we can get in the top 3 regardless.

Its going to be tough but we will be facing the best clans in the business, for the best gear.
Everybody loves a challenge and by sticking together and staying focused I am sure we can succeed!

So nobody has to leave!

More importantly, camp to win!!
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Joined: 5th Mar 2014
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26th Mar 2014

I say we cut the people that can't contribute and reap the reward of war cry!!

JUST KIDDING!! haha no way should we cut you guys as you said jon its playing with you guys that makes it enjoyable at the same time as rewarding so whilst i admire your willingness to be dropped if necessary i don't think by any means thats a tactic we need to make.
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